1 00:00:05,349 --> 00:00:04,150 and here uh with us today inside the 2 00:00:07,269 --> 00:00:05,359 international space station flight 3 00:00:08,950 --> 00:00:07,279 control room we've been talking about 4 00:00:11,110 --> 00:00:08,960 docking vehicles we have another one 5 00:00:13,190 --> 00:00:11,120 soon to launch first before it docks and 6 00:00:15,030 --> 00:00:13,200 that vehicle is the spacex dragon it is 7 00:00:16,470 --> 00:00:15,040 the first commercial space flight to 8 00:00:17,750 --> 00:00:16,480 ever to launch to the international 9 00:00:19,910 --> 00:00:17,760 space station 10 00:00:22,390 --> 00:00:19,920 with it is carrying some special cargo 11 00:00:24,550 --> 00:00:22,400 and that is some science we love science 12 00:00:26,550 --> 00:00:24,560 so here to talk with us today is camille 13 00:00:28,390 --> 00:00:26,560 eileen she is the 14 00:00:29,990 --> 00:00:28,400 space station assistant program 15 00:00:31,750 --> 00:00:30,000 scientist welcome and thank you for 16 00:00:33,670 --> 00:00:31,760 joining us thank you for michael for 17 00:00:35,670 --> 00:00:33,680 having me great well first before we get 18 00:00:36,870 --> 00:00:35,680 into the science that's going up to the 19 00:00:37,670 --> 00:00:36,880 station and the science that's coming 20 00:00:38,869 --> 00:00:37,680 down 21 00:00:41,190 --> 00:00:38,879 first just tell me a little about 22 00:00:43,270 --> 00:00:41,200 yourself how did you get into this field 23 00:00:45,910 --> 00:00:43,280 how did you come to nasa 24 00:00:48,709 --> 00:00:45,920 oh my gosh um i 25 00:00:51,990 --> 00:00:48,719 was i always had an interest in space 26 00:00:54,709 --> 00:00:52,000 and airplanes ever since i was a child 27 00:00:56,790 --> 00:00:54,719 so when i decided to study engineering 28 00:00:59,349 --> 00:00:56,800 automatically you know aerospace 29 00:01:01,349 --> 00:00:59,359 engineering came to mind so i have 30 00:01:03,189 --> 00:01:01,359 several degrees in aerospace engineering 31 00:01:04,549 --> 00:01:03,199 a bachelor's degree from howard 32 00:01:06,310 --> 00:01:04,559 university 33 00:01:09,350 --> 00:01:06,320 and a couple master's degrees in 34 00:01:12,230 --> 00:01:09,360 mechanical and aerospace engineering 35 00:01:14,789 --> 00:01:12,240 and i've been at nasa for about 10 years 36 00:01:16,630 --> 00:01:14,799 um i've spent also six six or seven 37 00:01:19,670 --> 00:01:16,640 years at department of defense working 38 00:01:21,350 --> 00:01:19,680 on ballistic missile engineering okay 39 00:01:23,190 --> 00:01:21,360 great so when you first came to nasa did 40 00:01:25,109 --> 00:01:23,200 you immediately start in the science the 41 00:01:27,109 --> 00:01:25,119 station science program no when i first 42 00:01:29,510 --> 00:01:27,119 came to nasa actually i started at 43 00:01:32,310 --> 00:01:29,520 kennedy space center okay yeah over a 44 00:01:33,190 --> 00:01:32,320 decade ago doing space lab processing 45 00:01:36,230 --> 00:01:33,200 for this 46 00:01:38,310 --> 00:01:36,240 back in the day for the space shuttle 47 00:01:40,950 --> 00:01:38,320 then i've worked at headquarters during 48 00:01:43,109 --> 00:01:40,960 the early days of exploration 49 00:01:45,429 --> 00:01:43,119 and then i came to 50 00:01:48,630 --> 00:01:45,439 johnson space center six years ago where 51 00:01:51,350 --> 00:01:48,640 i served as the orion crew module test 52 00:01:53,749 --> 00:01:51,360 and verification manager and now i'm in 53 00:01:55,510 --> 00:01:53,759 the iss program science office great 54 00:01:57,590 --> 00:01:55,520 welcome we're very very glad to have you 55 00:01:59,749 --> 00:01:57,600 here thank you so um let's go ahead and 56 00:02:01,590 --> 00:01:59,759 talk about that spacex dragon so there's 57 00:02:03,270 --> 00:02:01,600 something special about it and and that 58 00:02:04,709 --> 00:02:03,280 is that it's um 59 00:02:06,870 --> 00:02:04,719 not just that it's the first commercial 60 00:02:08,389 --> 00:02:06,880 cargo you know ship to go up but the 61 00:02:11,350 --> 00:02:08,399 thing that's special about it is that it 62 00:02:13,750 --> 00:02:11,360 is a reusable vehicle so it can bring 63 00:02:15,670 --> 00:02:13,760 stuff like science up and it can bring 64 00:02:17,750 --> 00:02:15,680 stuff like science back and that's very 65 00:02:19,510 --> 00:02:17,760 important can you explain to us what 66 00:02:22,070 --> 00:02:19,520 that's going to do as far as capability 67 00:02:24,470 --> 00:02:22,080 yes the research community is very very 68 00:02:26,309 --> 00:02:24,480 excited about this capability as you 69 00:02:28,390 --> 00:02:26,319 said we haven't had this capability at 70 00:02:31,110 --> 00:02:28,400 least a dung mass we call down mass 71 00:02:33,830 --> 00:02:31,120 capability since the space shuttle so 72 00:02:36,550 --> 00:02:33,840 the spacex dragon being able to 73 00:02:39,190 --> 00:02:36,560 demonstrate that it could return 74 00:02:41,190 --> 00:02:39,200 hardware and samples is an exciting 75 00:02:43,350 --> 00:02:41,200 thing for the researchers 76 00:02:44,710 --> 00:02:43,360 and in addition it has a cold storage 77 00:02:46,869 --> 00:02:44,720 capability that's going to be 78 00:02:49,110 --> 00:02:46,879 demonstrated and that's going to be able 79 00:02:50,869 --> 00:02:49,120 to preserve samples that need 80 00:02:52,710 --> 00:02:50,879 refrigeration and that's something we 81 00:02:54,070 --> 00:02:52,720 haven't had okay great so that's kind of 82 00:02:55,270 --> 00:02:54,080 like those biological samples that you 83 00:02:57,030 --> 00:02:55,280 knew about they're taking the blood and 84 00:02:58,710 --> 00:02:57,040 urine samples and all that sort of stuff 85 00:03:00,390 --> 00:02:58,720 i know we have the energy experiment and 86 00:03:02,149 --> 00:03:00,400 they've been taking those samples you 87 00:03:04,229 --> 00:03:02,159 know recently and so those would come 88 00:03:06,869 --> 00:03:04,239 down on that as exactly that would be 89 00:03:08,390 --> 00:03:06,879 preserved so that's good um so let's 90 00:03:10,470 --> 00:03:08,400 talk about some science that's going up 91 00:03:12,949 --> 00:03:10,480 this is really exciting because what i 92 00:03:14,630 --> 00:03:12,959 understand we have some students 93 00:03:17,509 --> 00:03:14,640 that are sending and this is from fifth 94 00:03:19,830 --> 00:03:17,519 grade to college age so students there 95 00:03:21,589 --> 00:03:19,840 are sending like 15 i think different 96 00:03:23,110 --> 00:03:21,599 participants are actually sending their 97 00:03:24,309 --> 00:03:23,120 science experiments up to the space 98 00:03:26,550 --> 00:03:24,319 station can you tell me a little about 99 00:03:29,110 --> 00:03:26,560 that program yes 100 00:03:30,789 --> 00:03:29,120 the students designed 15 experiments 101 00:03:32,309 --> 00:03:30,799 that would be going up on the spacex 102 00:03:34,949 --> 00:03:32,319 dragon 103 00:03:37,430 --> 00:03:34,959 and these as you said range from 5th 104 00:03:39,430 --> 00:03:37,440 graders to college level 105 00:03:42,149 --> 00:03:39,440 students which is very exciting 106 00:03:45,030 --> 00:03:42,159 designing these kind of experiments 107 00:03:47,430 --> 00:03:45,040 they were selected from almost 800 108 00:03:49,509 --> 00:03:47,440 proposals that came from around the 109 00:03:53,910 --> 00:03:49,519 united states 110 00:03:55,350 --> 00:03:53,920 and so it's a part of the nanoracks 111 00:03:57,429 --> 00:03:55,360 module 112 00:03:59,270 --> 00:03:57,439 that will be flying up 113 00:04:01,509 --> 00:03:59,280 to the space station and that's a 114 00:04:03,429 --> 00:04:01,519 multi-purpose research facility that's 115 00:04:05,350 --> 00:04:03,439 on board the space station that's going 116 00:04:07,750 --> 00:04:05,360 to house these experiments and the 117 00:04:09,429 --> 00:04:07,760 experiments range from looking at the 118 00:04:10,470 --> 00:04:09,439 effect actually we have a list here we 119 00:04:11,990 --> 00:04:10,480 can get some of these because they're 120 00:04:13,990 --> 00:04:12,000 very interesting and very 121 00:04:16,229 --> 00:04:14,000 wide range from fifth grade to college 122 00:04:18,150 --> 00:04:16,239 but they all sound very um just very 123 00:04:19,830 --> 00:04:18,160 intriguing so we have fermentation of 124 00:04:21,749 --> 00:04:19,840 grape juice and microgravity i might be 125 00:04:23,909 --> 00:04:21,759 interested in that one 126 00:04:26,710 --> 00:04:23,919 there is composting in microgravity 127 00:04:29,670 --> 00:04:26,720 radiation effects on worms dna study of 128 00:04:32,390 --> 00:04:29,680 e coli bacteria vitamin c effects on 129 00:04:33,909 --> 00:04:32,400 bone density using cacti to purify water 130 00:04:35,670 --> 00:04:33,919 which would be very essential aboard 131 00:04:37,909 --> 00:04:35,680 international space station that's very 132 00:04:40,070 --> 00:04:37,919 interesting um stuff here so and when 133 00:04:42,230 --> 00:04:40,080 you think of the context of students 134 00:04:44,710 --> 00:04:42,240 designing these kind of experiments is 135 00:04:46,950 --> 00:04:44,720 really exciting and it helps motivate 136 00:04:48,710 --> 00:04:46,960 them and inspire them in their studies 137 00:04:50,310 --> 00:04:48,720 of science math technology and 138 00:04:52,310 --> 00:04:50,320 engineering it's a unique unique 139 00:04:55,030 --> 00:04:52,320 opportunity i can't even imagine any 140 00:04:57,030 --> 00:04:55,040 better motivation exactly for me if you 141 00:04:58,550 --> 00:04:57,040 know if i were a student and i had my 142 00:05:00,310 --> 00:04:58,560 science was actually going up aboard the 143 00:05:02,150 --> 00:05:00,320 international space station that's 144 00:05:03,909 --> 00:05:02,160 far better than you know my little 145 00:05:04,870 --> 00:05:03,919 science project that i had up in that 146 00:05:07,029 --> 00:05:04,880 you know 147 00:05:10,950 --> 00:05:07,039 room of that day so speaking of those 148 00:05:12,870 --> 00:05:10,960 science projects and stuff we we have um 149 00:05:15,830 --> 00:05:12,880 so we are going to be bringing back 150 00:05:17,590 --> 00:05:15,840 um some science and some hardware and so 151 00:05:19,590 --> 00:05:17,600 let's talk about one of them i know i've 152 00:05:22,070 --> 00:05:19,600 i've actually seen a lot of this taken 153 00:05:25,029 --> 00:05:22,080 place um on the last expedition in this 154 00:05:27,510 --> 00:05:25,039 expedition as well it's known as shear 155 00:05:29,350 --> 00:05:27,520 and it has to do with the polymer fluids 156 00:05:31,749 --> 00:05:29,360 the rotation you want to talk to me 157 00:05:34,870 --> 00:05:31,759 about that yes shia stands for sheer 158 00:05:37,270 --> 00:05:34,880 history extensional rheology experiment 159 00:05:39,990 --> 00:05:37,280 it's a mouthful but really it looks at 160 00:05:42,710 --> 00:05:40,000 the behavior of liquid polymers in the 161 00:05:45,670 --> 00:05:42,720 microgravity environment when they are 162 00:05:48,390 --> 00:05:45,680 subjected to stressing so they they're 163 00:05:50,950 --> 00:05:48,400 rotationally stressed and so um 164 00:05:52,469 --> 00:05:50,960 researchers are really interested in how 165 00:05:54,710 --> 00:05:52,479 that whole process 166 00:05:57,270 --> 00:05:54,720 and how the behavior of those polymers 167 00:05:59,510 --> 00:05:57,280 act in that environment and that really 168 00:06:03,270 --> 00:05:59,520 helps them with designing fabrication 169 00:06:06,469 --> 00:06:03,280 and repair processes of using in-situ 170 00:06:08,309 --> 00:06:06,479 materials on board the space station and 171 00:06:10,230 --> 00:06:08,319 does it have applications here on earth 172 00:06:11,029 --> 00:06:10,240 it does um in helping 173 00:06:13,749 --> 00:06:11,039 to 174 00:06:15,670 --> 00:06:13,759 do manufacturing processes of things 175 00:06:17,590 --> 00:06:15,680 like liquid adhesives 176 00:06:20,790 --> 00:06:17,600 great thanks well there really is some 177 00:06:22,469 --> 00:06:20,800 connection space to earth 178 00:06:24,230 --> 00:06:22,479 very important for us 179 00:06:25,909 --> 00:06:24,240 there's another one that's coming down 180 00:06:27,909 --> 00:06:25,919 and this one i am just i am just 181 00:06:29,990 --> 00:06:27,919 completely 182 00:06:31,830 --> 00:06:30,000 enthralled by it i mean i'm just very 183 00:06:32,870 --> 00:06:31,840 intrigued by it and it's the plant 184 00:06:34,870 --> 00:06:32,880 signaling 185 00:06:36,870 --> 00:06:34,880 um so tell me a little about it because 186 00:06:39,430 --> 00:06:36,880 it's talking about how plants grow and 187 00:06:40,790 --> 00:06:39,440 how we can basically re-engineer a 188 00:06:43,510 --> 00:06:40,800 plant's 189 00:06:45,029 --> 00:06:43,520 basic genetics yes on how it grows we 190 00:06:47,029 --> 00:06:45,039 can tell it how we want it to grow and 191 00:06:49,350 --> 00:06:47,039 that's just amazing we're redesigning 192 00:06:51,430 --> 00:06:49,360 evolution almost so we do that on the 193 00:06:54,070 --> 00:06:51,440 ground actually but um in the 194 00:06:56,230 --> 00:06:54,080 microgravity uh environment researchers 195 00:06:58,469 --> 00:06:56,240 are looking at the molecular mechanisms 196 00:07:00,710 --> 00:06:58,479 that plants use to respond to the 197 00:07:02,870 --> 00:07:00,720 changes in the environment and as you 198 00:07:05,350 --> 00:07:02,880 said that helps them design plants or 199 00:07:07,749 --> 00:07:05,360 really select plants that would 200 00:07:10,150 --> 00:07:07,759 withstand long duration space flight and 201 00:07:11,350 --> 00:07:10,160 the microgravity environment yeah and so 202 00:07:12,710 --> 00:07:11,360 when i'm thinking about those science 203 00:07:13,909 --> 00:07:12,720 fair projects that we had back in the 204 00:07:15,350 --> 00:07:13,919 day 205 00:07:16,790 --> 00:07:15,360 the one i always remember because 206 00:07:18,950 --> 00:07:16,800 everyone did it the one that they did it 207 00:07:19,990 --> 00:07:18,960 the night before you know those plants 208 00:07:23,189 --> 00:07:20,000 with 209 00:07:24,629 --> 00:07:23,199 because they wanted to see which way the 210 00:07:26,629 --> 00:07:24,639 the plants grew toward the light or that 211 00:07:28,550 --> 00:07:26,639 sort of thing but so 212 00:07:29,909 --> 00:07:28,560 with the environment in space it's not 213 00:07:32,230 --> 00:07:29,919 necessarily looking at light it's 214 00:07:33,510 --> 00:07:32,240 looking at other things like 215 00:07:36,550 --> 00:07:33,520 yeah so 216 00:07:38,309 --> 00:07:36,560 what we don't understand how plants grow 217 00:07:41,350 --> 00:07:38,319 on the ground or we kind of take it for 218 00:07:44,230 --> 00:07:41,360 granted is that the roots because of 219 00:07:46,710 --> 00:07:44,240 gravity grow down so that's the sensing 220 00:07:49,350 --> 00:07:46,720 to go down in the downward vector right 221 00:07:51,430 --> 00:07:49,360 and then the leaves go up towards the 222 00:07:53,670 --> 00:07:51,440 light in microgravity of course we don't 223 00:07:54,869 --> 00:07:53,680 have we don't have the gravity 224 00:07:56,950 --> 00:07:54,879 um so 225 00:07:59,749 --> 00:07:56,960 you know researchers are looking at 226 00:08:01,830 --> 00:07:59,759 different stimulus um that would allow 227 00:08:04,469 --> 00:08:01,840 the plants to grow and of course plants 228 00:08:06,150 --> 00:08:04,479 are great food source for long duration 229 00:08:09,189 --> 00:08:06,160 space flights it's it's a really 230 00:08:11,430 --> 00:08:09,199 critical uh investigation sure very 231 00:08:13,350 --> 00:08:11,440 important and so the material science 232 00:08:15,270 --> 00:08:13,360 research work i understand that that is 233 00:08:17,830 --> 00:08:15,280 a component that will be coming down 234 00:08:21,189 --> 00:08:17,840 along with these science experiments yes 235 00:08:23,350 --> 00:08:21,199 that is one um the materials science 236 00:08:24,790 --> 00:08:23,360 research rack is a facility that 237 00:08:26,390 --> 00:08:24,800 facilitates 238 00:08:27,350 --> 00:08:26,400 aluminum 239 00:08:29,589 --> 00:08:27,360 metal 240 00:08:32,310 --> 00:08:29,599 processing on board the space station 241 00:08:34,949 --> 00:08:32,320 and what they look at is melting it and 242 00:08:37,269 --> 00:08:34,959 then solidifying it so those material 243 00:08:39,550 --> 00:08:37,279 samples are actually coming down and 244 00:08:41,990 --> 00:08:39,560 researchers are excited to look at the 245 00:08:45,269 --> 00:08:42,000 recrystallization patterns that happen 246 00:08:47,269 --> 00:08:45,279 as an as a result of microgravity and so 247 00:08:49,350 --> 00:08:47,279 that's some of the hardware and samples 248 00:08:51,110 --> 00:08:49,360 that will be coming back on the dragon 249 00:08:53,190 --> 00:08:51,120 capsule and what that is looking at is 250 00:08:55,350 --> 00:08:53,200 also or the benefits of that 251 00:08:57,030 --> 00:08:55,360 particular research is to improve you 252 00:08:59,269 --> 00:08:57,040 know to have improvements on alloying 253 00:09:01,670 --> 00:08:59,279 materials here on earth exactly alloy 254 00:09:04,070 --> 00:09:01,680 materials being things like brass or 255 00:09:05,990 --> 00:09:04,080 silver exactly so that's very it's 256 00:09:07,430 --> 00:09:06,000 fascinating it's just amazing i'm always 257 00:09:09,110 --> 00:09:07,440 amazed you know sometimes we just see 258 00:09:10,470 --> 00:09:09,120 them out there they're you know kind of 259 00:09:12,790 --> 00:09:10,480 floating around but they actually are 260 00:09:14,550 --> 00:09:12,800 doing work that is beneficial to us not 261 00:09:17,030 --> 00:09:14,560 only to get us further into space but 262 00:09:19,910 --> 00:09:17,040 also back here on earth that has an 263 00:09:20,790 --> 00:09:19,920 impact on life on earth sure and any 264 00:09:21,590 --> 00:09:20,800 other 265 00:09:22,389 --> 00:09:21,600 part 266 00:09:24,150 --> 00:09:22,399 yes 267 00:09:25,829 --> 00:09:24,160 there are some other hardware components 268 00:09:28,389 --> 00:09:25,839 coming back from the combustion 269 00:09:30,630 --> 00:09:28,399 integrated rack which is a re research 270 00:09:33,430 --> 00:09:30,640 facility that facilitates combustion 271 00:09:36,389 --> 00:09:33,440 research we also have some double coal 272 00:09:38,230 --> 00:09:36,399 bags coming back um so it's 273 00:09:40,550 --> 00:09:38,240 it's a very exciting time for 274 00:09:42,630 --> 00:09:40,560 researchers so that they can get their 275 00:09:44,870 --> 00:09:42,640 research back on the ground and and 276 00:09:46,949 --> 00:09:44,880 continue the analysis of all these 277 00:09:48,310 --> 00:09:46,959 investigations great well thank you so 278 00:09:50,389 --> 00:09:48,320 much for all the information this is 279 00:09:51,750 --> 00:09:50,399 very exciting news we are looking 280 00:09:53,590 --> 00:09:51,760 forward to that spacex launch and 281 00:09:55,030 --> 00:09:53,600 hopefully it'll it'll get up there it'll 282 00:09:57,110 --> 00:09:55,040 dock and then it'll return all that good 283 00:09:59,269 --> 00:09:57,120 stuff back to us and um here on earth 284 00:10:01,910 --> 00:09:59,279 and you guys will have lots to look into